Manmeat, Fuckcuts & World Affairs

scenicviewofcarnage:

I said pretty much the EXACT same thing Alex said in the car on the way home and my friends were like “So you felt bad for a rapist.” No. I felt bad because he DIDN’T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE’D JUST DONE. He thought she still loved him. I mean, that doesn’t make it anything other than rape and it’s wrong and disgusting either way. But yea, I guess I did feel bad. His character didn’t understand what he’d done, he didn’t understand that she really didn’t feel the same way. He still loved her in a crazy, messed up way and it made him do something horrible, crazy and violent to her.
And honestly, I don’t even know what to say about the people who are trying to make it look like he said something horribly offensive by saying he felt bad for his character. He didn’t say he supports rape because he doesn’t. Seriously, you need to re-read what was said because it has nothing to do with him supporting rape. And really if you listen to any other thing this man has said in other interviews about ANYTHING you’d realize that he actually is a very smart, sweet man. He is not just a pretty face and to suggest that that’s all he is, is very shallow, rude and disrespectful. If you aren’t good at understanding characters and seeing other points of view and thinking before you speak you probably shouldn’t, just saying.

Rude, and disrespectful? Like this? —>  ”If you aren’t good at understanding characters and seeing other points of view and thinking before you speak you probably shouldn’t, just saying.”

Because you see our point of view? I’m so damn tired of people twisting my words, I don’t even know what to say anymore. Criticizing the way he expresses himself is apparently not allowed. Got it. Did you pause to think that maybe your friends’ reaction should have been an indication that this is a tricky subject?

I don’t know why people keep saying “He didn’t support rape! He’s not a rape apologist! Try to understand what he’s saying!” When did I accuse him of supporting rape? Goddamn, little girls and their celeb crushes are a thing of beauty. And yes, now I’m being a bitch on purpose, you bring it out in me.

(Source: santress, via mimosasatdorsia)

stillhidden:

poligirl25:

luvtheviking:

notjusttheblood:

objectifyingmenbecausewecan:

notjusttheblood:

tradethesunforthemoonandstars:

dazzlefly:

procrastinationandsarcasm:

aclutteredmind:

santress:

On Straw Dogs:

“I think it’s fuckin’ sad,” he says.  ”Because Charlie thinks this is not rape.  He thinks she wants this: “She belongs with me — this is it, here we are, together forever.’ And that look between them when she’s like, Get off me…It kills him.”

Ultimately, though, the lesson he took from the role was “how crazy love can make you.”  He says, “I don’t fall often, but I fall hard. And when you fall hard, it takes a while to get up.”

— Alexander Skarsgard (Men’s Journal (Oct. 2011), Scans:  StoreMags.com)

I’m sorry, what?  It’s sad for the rapist?  I hope he meant sad as in pathetic, but that’s still not right.  Abhorrent would be better.  Atrocious.  Horrific.  Something that should never happen.  Those would be better things to say, not that you pity him.  And the lesson is how crazy love can make you.  Because the rapist is a victim of love.  Because the rapist is just so in love.  No, I don’t think so.  I realize he’s your character, but the rapist is not the victim.  He’s not a sympathetic character.  There is never an excuse for rape.

Guys.  If he can’t find a way to sympathize with the character, to rationalize him, to make him seem human, how is he supposed to play him?  This is all fictional and theoretical.  Were there actual people involved, it would be more black and white.

why so much beef? I agree with above rebuttle. well said procrastinationandsarcasm - however I also agree with statement above as well. it’s a tough position.

OH DEAR GODRIC. Get over it girls. Seriously. I understand what he’s saying, that’s why we’re soul mates obviously.

“it’s sad” as in pathetic and awful because the CHARACTER (who isnt real by the way) doesn’t think of it as rape…which is BAD, because IT IS RAPE and thats BAD… LIKE WERE YOU READING THE SAME SHIT I WAS? fucking christ man, people like to take every fucking thing and make it a fucking issue, he basically said its fucking bad, but the character doesnt think so, get it? fuck.

AND the rest of his statement was obviously taken out of context, this is an interview, he isnt saying that playing a rapist and him falling in love are related things, he is saying that RAPE is a fucking PSYCHOTIC THING and some people are so crazy and think they are in love and think that love and rape are related… OKAY? wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww… i just got so annoyed, lmao sorry everyone

 Oh excuse me, I’m so sorry the topic of rape annoys you (I’ll be using “you” to include everyone who thinks he’s just so dreamy and therefore they know exactly what he meant to say … which …. LMFAO). Don’t read this post then, wouldn’t want to upset anyone.

Couple of things.

1) If you continue using the “this is just a movie” argument, people might start to think you don’t know the connection between pop culture and rape culture. Wouldn’t want that, right?

2) This has become less about what he said (because I do believe he probably, hopefully meant something far less offensive but that’s not the point) and more about the fans’ reaction. You think he’s so dreamy that you don’t question a word he’s saying. That’s just depressing. You can’t just assume he didn’t mean it just because his biceps are impressive. That’s so offensive and anti-feminist I want to puke. If SOMEONE had questioned his words instead of going “Awwwwww”, I’m sure neither aclutteredmind nor moi would have been so pissed. Because that worries me too. That people don’t even read the shit he says even when it’s borderline sexist and definitely unreflected. And just straight-up dumb.

3) And don’t put words in his mouth just because you want to sit on his face either. Hot guys aren’t allowed to say asshole things just because you like the way their t-shirts cling to their moobies. You’re setting back feminism 100 years.

Oh look, I feel better. Bring it. Tell me I don’t know him. Tell me he didn’t mean it. Tell me I don’t get him, tell me I’m upset over a dumb movie, tell me I need to get a life. I. Do. Not. Care. Because this is an important topic which women should care about. And no, I don’t think he really meant to trivialize rape (fyi, he does rape her in the movie) but as a responsible man he should have expressed himself differently.

Also, I don’t care about the language barrier. English is not my first language either and even I know that on the topic of rape, get a fucking dictionary or you could be misinterpreted.

 /littlemissbitchy

since many of his fans think of him as more than just a “hot guy” most of your argument is invalid. AND being “feminist” doesn’t have to mean being a cunt who doesn’t care about the feelings of men, either. “agreeing with him cus he is hot” is kind of fucking rude, to be honest, and shallow, and im neither of those things, so that entire argument is still invalid to me. yes there are people out there that you described perfectly, but still it’s just a movie, rape happens all the time, just cus its in a movie and done by a hot guy doesnt mean its right, whatever, but people need to calm down about if he says he feels sorry for his own character.. watch the film and get in his characters head and you’d know what he’s talking about.

anyways, this discussion i guess is between those who feel strongly against rape and those who see it as just another evil of our disgusting world. whatever.

Dude, he’s an actor, he always has to find a way to get his characters or he should change his job. Next time try to really understand what he is saying not what you think he is saying. All this drama over a movie is pretty stupid.

Wow! Like everyone else has already explained, I thought it was pretty clear that Alex’s comments were him explaining the motivations for his character.  Why in the world would an actor ever take the role of a character who does bad things if he or she couldn’t understand how that character ticks?  He is obviously not excusing rape or justifying it, he’s just trying to explain what was going through his character’s head at that moment.  Even rapists have histories and thoughts.  This wasn’t some stranger who raped a woman on a back street. He not only knew the woman, but she was his ex-girlfriend.  Trying to understand why someone does something horrible in no way justifies that act.  Why don’t you step down off of your moral high horse for a second?  I’m not going to crucify an actor for trying to understand his character’s motives. By your reasoning, no actor should ever accept the part of a rapist.

Not only that, but the quote is taken completely out of context. He isn’t justifying the rape, he certainly isn’t justifying what happened after. What he deems sad is Charlie’s mindset, that led to the whole bloody mess. He is not feeling sad for the rapist, he is saying the guy is sad, and obviously wrong in his assumption that this was “love,” when, clearly it wasn’t anything remotely that.

This is a tough topic, and it pushes a lot of buttons. But that’s what movie is doing anyway. The character and his motivations are going to be questioned, and Alex is relating what was going on in the guy’s head. That’s not him excusing it in any way, the whole conversation is about the rape scene. He doesn’t call it anything else, he is not an idiot or an apologist. No one who shot that scene or saw it can possibly qualify it as anything else. What he is explaining is the way his character gets to this point.

 At this point I shouldn’t even bother but I’m a little depressed now.

“Why don’t you step down off of your moral high horse for a second?” I could. Or you could get up here and enjoy the view, it’s a nice perspective. None of what you said addresses my point so I’m not sure what I’m supposed to answer to.

In general, the problem remains. You guys all try to explain what he really meant. Fine, you may be right, I never even challenged that. What I don’t understand is why everyone feels the need to attack those who question his words. They were unfortunate at best and could be easily misinterpreted, which is not good. What he says or means or if it was taken out of context is not the point, the point is that we questioned whether calling “it” (whatever he meant by that, I refuse to believe any of you guys can be sure) “sad” was the best choice. I don’t think it was. In my very first reply I gave him the benefit of the doubt and showed that there are much better ways to explain his character and his mindset but apparently none of it matters because when it comes to him, criticism isn’t allowed?

I give up now.

No! Hell to the motherfucking NO!

aclutteredmind:

santress:

On Straw Dogs:

“I think it’s fuckin’ sad,” he says.  ”Because Charlie thinks this is not rape.  He thinks she wants this: “She belongs with me — this is it, here we are, together forever.’ And that look between them when she’s like, Get off me…It kills him.”

Ultimately, though, the lesson he took from the role was “how crazy love can make you.”  He says, “I don’t fall often, but I fall hard. And when you fall hard, it takes a while to get up.”

— Alexander Skarsgard (Men’s Journal (Oct. 2011), Scans:  StoreMags.com)

I’m sorry, what?  It’s sad for the rapist?  I hope he meant sad as in pathetic, but that’s still not right.  Abhorrent would be better.  Atrocious.  Horrific.  Something that should never happen.  Those would be better things to say, not that you pity him.  And the lesson is how crazy love can make you.  Because the rapist is a victim of love.  Because the rapist is just so in love.  No, I don’t think so.  I realize he’s your character, but the rapist is not the victim.  He’s not a sympathetic character.  There is never an excuse for rape.

 Word. What in hell is this answer? Please, someone tell me when his brain went missing because if THIS is the lesson he took from the film, he needs a new one. Fucking … this is bullshit. ”Because Charlie thinks this is not rape.  He thinks she wants this…” REALLY??? She also wants the other guy to have a go at her? REALLY??????

Listen closely, bitch. If you think love is the reason women get raped, you should never speak again. Ever. You should do your sexy little poses for glossy magazines and eye-fuck the camera as best as you can. Do what you’re good at. Shut up and be pretty. But please, don’t educate us on why this poor little lovesick man rapes his ex. And if this is not actually what you meant to say, let me help you out. This is the answer you should have given:

“He’s frustrated. His life didn’t turn out the way he thought it would and now his ex comes back into town, dangling her husband in front of him and it drives him up the wall. It brings out the worst in him and all his rage and disappointment over his life is directed at her and her husband. He thinks she’s his and that he’s entitled to take what belongs to him. He feels threatened and angry and takes it out on her.”

There. It’s somewhat of an explanation IF you really need one. Which you don’t. He’s a rapist. And for once, there is no gray area.

tom hardy…please sex me up

*credit goes to Tom Hardy Party & or Not my hair it’s a palm…

DELICIOUSNESS!!!

Holy effin’ shit!

THAT is what I call bringing the sexy back. Son of a bitch that is one hunky piece of man meat. My inner fangirl is 75% restored. I’m ready for that questionable True Blood fuckery (I’m looking at you, Ball) and the psychotic hotness that seems to be Straw Dogs. Bring it! *licks screen*

/littlemissbitchy